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		<title>By: sega</title>
		<link>http://mozillalabs.com/blog/2008/10/developer-tools-and-the-open-web/comment-page-1/#comment-4256</link>
		<dc:creator>sega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please tacke of your system &quot;master key&quot; or give us possibility optional to fix it in case of(forgetten password)====&gt;because it slow down the machine.
Firefox is my favor but...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please tacke of your system &#8220;master key&#8221; or give us possibility optional to fix it in case of(forgetten password)====&gt;because it slow down the machine.<br />
Firefox is my favor but&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Yang Yang</title>
		<link>http://mozillalabs.com/blog/2008/10/developer-tools-and-the-open-web/comment-page-1/#comment-4225</link>
		<dc:creator>Yang Yang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well folks, I don&#039;t think dudes at mozilla are just talking about another desktop IDE. My understanding is that they are working on a whole suites of tools for an ambient development environment including test suites such as for usability which has been little done before, both offline and online.

One organization may have a lot of ongoing projects at the same time, but only 1 or 2 of them are going to spread themselves and be touching the world. Geeks are rare, mediocrity pervade. That&#039;s why DW prevails for a good ten years.

Just my 2 cents. Looking forward to what you are going to achieve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well folks, I don&#8217;t think dudes at mozilla are just talking about another desktop IDE. My understanding is that they are working on a whole suites of tools for an ambient development environment including test suites such as for usability which has been little done before, both offline and online.</p>
<p>One organization may have a lot of ongoing projects at the same time, but only 1 or 2 of them are going to spread themselves and be touching the world. Geeks are rare, mediocrity pervade. That&#8217;s why DW prevails for a good ten years.</p>
<p>Just my 2 cents. Looking forward to what you are going to achieve.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramesh.T.Rajpal</title>
		<link>http://mozillalabs.com/blog/2008/10/developer-tools-and-the-open-web/comment-page-1/#comment-4224</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramesh.T.Rajpal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 08:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mozilla Should Work on free Operating System (O.S)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mozilla Should Work on free Operating System (O.S)!</p>
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		<title>By: Yves Van Goethem</title>
		<link>http://mozillalabs.com/blog/2008/10/developer-tools-and-the-open-web/comment-page-1/#comment-4222</link>
		<dc:creator>Yves Van Goethem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ben Galbraith Ok let us now if you plan to do something in this direction, I&#039;m really interested in following this kind of project :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ben Galbraith Ok let us now if you plan to do something in this direction, I&#8217;m really interested in following this kind of project <img src='http://mozillalabs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark S</title>
		<link>http://mozillalabs.com/blog/2008/10/developer-tools-and-the-open-web/comment-page-1/#comment-4219</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 06:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann, looks like what you&#039;re looking for is Nvu (or Kompozer) here: http://nvu.com/
A more advanced evolution is also in development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann, looks like what you&#8217;re looking for is Nvu (or Kompozer) here: <a href="http://nvu.com/" rel="nofollow">http://nvu.com/</a><br />
A more advanced evolution is also in development.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna Oppelaar</title>
		<link>http://mozillalabs.com/blog/2008/10/developer-tools-and-the-open-web/comment-page-1/#comment-4220</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna Oppelaar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For years I have been using  Mozilla composer to work on my website
Now I am in the middle of  altering my site and  it is gone  I have no Idea how to find the composer to  work om my site and to send it in to space
Ann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For years I have been using  Mozilla composer to work on my website<br />
Now I am in the middle of  altering my site and  it is gone  I have no Idea how to find the composer to  work om my site and to send it in to space<br />
Ann</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://mozillalabs.com/blog/2008/10/developer-tools-and-the-open-web/comment-page-1/#comment-4221</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say the more you keep tools in-browser and cross-browser the better. I&#039;m a (love and hate) fan of Eclipse and everything, but I really think browser tools are best in the browser, especially going forward. Note also that it it&#039;s a fuzzy thing, not all or nothing, but many subcomponents really should be browserizable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say the more you keep tools in-browser and cross-browser the better. I&#8217;m a (love and hate) fan of Eclipse and everything, but I really think browser tools are best in the browser, especially going forward. Note also that it it&#8217;s a fuzzy thing, not all or nothing, but many subcomponents really should be browserizable.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark S</title>
		<link>http://mozillalabs.com/blog/2008/10/developer-tools-and-the-open-web/comment-page-1/#comment-4223</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really excited to see this development!

A quick testimonial for my point:
When I was in high school I took a basic class in Visual Basic.  I&#039;d had QBasic so I knew the language basics.
I remember that it was great being able to whip up a program in a short amount of time, create windows, drop buttons and text boxes in them, and so forth.  I could then run through it one step at a time and figure out where my errors were.  When I was done I could build it to an executable and it would just work.

I&#039;m no programmer now and I know that creating something like this for web and/or Mozilla technologies would be difficult and in some ways impossible/untenable.  But if developers and normal Joe Users have a similar tool - not some thing that they have to compile or follow multipart instructions to set things up - but a similar environment where they could pick up and go and create something without jumping through lots of hoops, we could see a much larger uptake in developing cool web applications and cool cross-platform mozilla-based applications as well as lowering the barrier such that less technical users could enter into creating applications.
Back in the day, my computer teacher assigned me to build a calculator in VBasic.  I did so with no problem and today (with a little review of Basic) could still do so.  But today, I feel the barrier to doing this is much too great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really excited to see this development!</p>
<p>A quick testimonial for my point:<br />
When I was in high school I took a basic class in Visual Basic.  I&#8217;d had QBasic so I knew the language basics.<br />
I remember that it was great being able to whip up a program in a short amount of time, create windows, drop buttons and text boxes in them, and so forth.  I could then run through it one step at a time and figure out where my errors were.  When I was done I could build it to an executable and it would just work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no programmer now and I know that creating something like this for web and/or Mozilla technologies would be difficult and in some ways impossible/untenable.  But if developers and normal Joe Users have a similar tool &#8211; not some thing that they have to compile or follow multipart instructions to set things up &#8211; but a similar environment where they could pick up and go and create something without jumping through lots of hoops, we could see a much larger uptake in developing cool web applications and cool cross-platform mozilla-based applications as well as lowering the barrier such that less technical users could enter into creating applications.<br />
Back in the day, my computer teacher assigned me to build a calculator in VBasic.  I did so with no problem and today (with a little review of Basic) could still do so.  But today, I feel the barrier to doing this is much too great.</p>
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		<title>By: JanD</title>
		<link>http://mozillalabs.com/blog/2008/10/developer-tools-and-the-open-web/comment-page-1/#comment-4226</link>
		<dc:creator>JanD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you cooperate with the Eclipse Project you should imho take a look at Aptana (www.aptana.com).
It would be great to have something like this but with refactoring (also for css) and a stronger Firefox integration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you cooperate with the Eclipse Project you should imho take a look at Aptana (www.aptana.com).<br />
It would be great to have something like this but with refactoring (also for css) and a stronger Firefox integration.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Bollinger</title>
		<link>http://mozillalabs.com/blog/2008/10/developer-tools-and-the-open-web/comment-page-1/#comment-4255</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Bollinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use jQuery as well. If you need input on UI and or web developer work flow... let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use jQuery as well. If you need input on UI and or web developer work flow&#8230; let me know.</p>
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